Comments for http://liucy.wordpress.com process record for CGIA215 Thu, 28 May 2009 23:38:28 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 Comment on chatting with parents by jodybaker http://liucy.wordpress.com/2009/05/24/chatting-with-parents/#comment-18 jodybaker Thu, 28 May 2009 23:38:28 +0000 http://liucy.wordpress.com/?p=136#comment-18 Not only in other parts of the world but other times. This idea of individual creativity and ownership of ideas is relatively new and emerges during the romantic era. As Walter Benjamin foresaw 80 years ago, such concepts may be outmoded. Not only in other parts of the world but other times. This idea of individual creativity and ownership of ideas is relatively new and emerges during the romantic era. As Walter Benjamin foresaw 80 years ago, such concepts may be outmoded.

]]> Comment on #2 Tapscott and Williams – Peer Pioneers Response by jodybaker http://liucy.wordpress.com/2009/05/24/2-tapscott-and-williams-peer-pioneers-response/#comment-17 jodybaker Thu, 28 May 2009 23:14:33 +0000 http://liucy.wordpress.com/?p=127#comment-17 "I wonder if this will ever happen with Prosuming that Tapscott and Williams discuss, that people go “oh another way we can make the product, offer our opinions” which then lead to the “why bother” feeling when it’s everywhere?" The next book addresses this question directly. Shirky claims that these technologies do not have a huge social impact until they become boring and mundane. “I wonder if this will ever happen with Prosuming that Tapscott and Williams discuss, that people go “oh another way we can make the product, offer our opinions” which then lead to the “why bother” feeling when it’s everywhere?”

The next book addresses this question directly. Shirky claims that these technologies do not have a huge social impact until they become boring and mundane.

]]> Comment on #2 Tapscott and Williams – Peer Pioneers Response by jodybaker http://liucy.wordpress.com/2009/05/24/2-tapscott-and-williams-peer-pioneers-response/#comment-16 jodybaker Thu, 28 May 2009 23:11:38 +0000 http://liucy.wordpress.com/?p=127#comment-16 We should all reread Walter Benjamin's "Work of Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproducibility" (no groans, please). He claimed, back in the 1930s that the ideas of originality, authenticity, authorship etc. were "outmoded." And that was before photocopy machines, never mind the digitial age. Perhaps we are being challenged to really think hard about these (fairly new historically) concepts and consider if they are a help or hinderance to cultural growth. Would we benefit as a society if individuals (or corporations) no longer owned ideas? Science and healthcare would certainly benefit if individuals or corps no longer owned patents for drugs, tests, etc. We should all reread Walter Benjamin’s “Work of Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproducibility” (no groans, please). He claimed, back in the 1930s that the ideas of originality, authenticity, authorship etc. were “outmoded.” And that was before photocopy machines, never mind the digitial age. Perhaps we are being challenged to really think hard about these (fairly new historically) concepts and consider if they are a help or hinderance to cultural growth. Would we benefit as a society if individuals (or corporations) no longer owned ideas? Science and healthcare would certainly benefit if individuals or corps no longer owned patents for drugs, tests, etc.

]]> Comment on chat thoughts by jodybaker http://liucy.wordpress.com/2009/05/19/chat-thoughts/#comment-15 jodybaker Sat, 23 May 2009 20:49:22 +0000 http://liucy.wordpress.com/?p=123#comment-15 He also give his books away on the internet with a click button to Amazon and he sells tons of books that way. People start reading on their computer, get fed up and order the book from Amazon. He also lets people in other parts of the world download his book, print it and sell it. He gets a small cut which is money he would not see anyway. He also give his books away on the internet with a click button to Amazon and he sells tons of books that way. People start reading on their computer, get fed up and order the book from Amazon.

He also lets people in other parts of the world download his book, print it and sell it. He gets a small cut which is money he would not see anyway.

]]> Comment on chat thoughts by judylin6868 http://liucy.wordpress.com/2009/05/19/chat-thoughts/#comment-14 judylin6868 Sat, 23 May 2009 02:11:37 +0000 http://liucy.wordpress.com/?p=123#comment-14 Hey Julie, I talked with one of my friend, and she remind me that Doctorow also earned money from having lectures, conference, and advise. She said that's how mainly most of these people make money. I think so too, no? Hey Julie,

I talked with one of my friend, and she remind me that Doctorow also earned money from having lectures, conference, and advise. She said that’s how mainly most of these people make money. I think so too, no?

]]> Comment on chat thoughts by jodybaker http://liucy.wordpress.com/2009/05/19/chat-thoughts/#comment-13 jodybaker Fri, 22 May 2009 23:57:11 +0000 http://liucy.wordpress.com/?p=123#comment-13 No one knows how this will all work out. But it is clear that with the ability to make infinite and perfect copies for free, the old model will not work. Music is easy. It's cheap to make and you can give it away and ask for donations like radiohead. Movies are different because of the costs involved. I think product placement will be one way and I see that on HBO. And you can still get ppl into theatres to get your $$$ back. Perhaps the age of huge mega million box office smash hits is over. Or subscriptions might be the way to go. You can ask "how will this work" all you want but they are going to have to figure out how to monetize somehow because we are not going back to VHS tapes. It's too late to stop it. We have to work with this environment, this new economy of free culture because that is what we have now, like it or not. No one knows how this will all work out. But it is clear that with the ability to make infinite and perfect copies for free, the old model will not work. Music is easy. It’s cheap to make and you can give it away and ask for donations like radiohead. Movies are different because of the costs involved. I think product placement will be one way and I see that on HBO. And you can still get ppl into theatres to get your $$$ back. Perhaps the age of huge mega million box office smash hits is over. Or subscriptions might be the way to go. You can ask “how will this work” all you want but they are going to have to figure out how to monetize somehow because we are not going back to VHS tapes. It’s too late to stop it. We have to work with this environment, this new economy of free culture because that is what we have now, like it or not.

]]> Comment on chat thoughts by Julie http://liucy.wordpress.com/2009/05/19/chat-thoughts/#comment-12 Julie Wed, 20 May 2009 22:39:29 +0000 http://liucy.wordpress.com/?p=123#comment-12 No I totally get that, it just seems a bit uhhh what's the word I'm looking for.....not (naive) but something along the same meaning. Like I understand how a reader may be so grateful to support, however there's also so many more people who never do? (Those that just go "ohhh free!") Maybe it's a negative way to think about it.. Though it's definitely a very good-hearted way. I agree too, money isn't everything but it is a undeniable necessity in this society. No I totally get that, it just seems a bit uhhh what’s the word I’m looking for…..not (naive) but something along the same meaning. Like I understand how a reader may be so grateful to support, however there’s also so many more people who never do? (Those that just go “ohhh free!”) Maybe it’s a negative way to think about it.. Though it’s definitely a very good-hearted way. I agree too, money isn’t everything but it is a undeniable necessity in this society.

]]> Comment on chat thoughts by judylin6868 http://liucy.wordpress.com/2009/05/19/chat-thoughts/#comment-11 judylin6868 Wed, 20 May 2009 21:30:31 +0000 http://liucy.wordpress.com/?p=123#comment-11 Hey Julie, Thank you for your reply on my wordpress. Sorry it took my a while to reply. But here we go. After your comment, it does got me thinking over the issue of profit making. I mean money is not everything, BUT it is the essential thing I can't deny that. But I think what make Doctorow success is the fact that he trust his reader. (I know... it sounds bit cliche) He gives his trust and expecting nothing in return, and I think his reader takes that and willing to give their support out to him. Whether or not it is giving out money or something else. I don't know if this is a bit utopian thinking or. But that is ONLY my point of view. Because I would do the same thing if someone trust me in the first place without expecting anything from me. I would love to give out my support to whoever that might be. What do you think? :) Hey Julie,

Thank you for your reply on my wordpress. Sorry it took my a while to reply. But here we go.
After your comment, it does got me thinking over the issue of profit making. I mean money is not everything, BUT it is the essential thing I can’t deny that. But I think what make Doctorow success is the fact that he trust his reader. (I know… it sounds bit cliche) He gives his trust and expecting nothing in return, and I think his reader takes that and willing to give their support out to him. Whether or not it is giving out money or something else. I don’t know if this is a bit utopian thinking or. But that is ONLY my point of view. Because I would do the same thing if someone trust me in the first place without expecting anything from me. I would love to give out my support to whoever that might be. What do you think? :)

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